= Browser Panel 11-12 =
HTML5: the spec is still in draft. what is implemented, what isn't?
- Google: WebKit supports a bunch of HTML5, gears transformed into offline support, UI specs are exciting (custom scrollbars, etc). Google plans to extends WebKit
- Microsoft: the spec isn't ready yet... ? taking their time because of the immaturity of the HTML5 draft. basically waiting for others to implement it first, and then look at their code :)
To Microsoft: why don't you implement canvas? cause of silverlight?
- Not suggesting that you use silverlight instead of vector graphics ever.
- Planned for the future
To Google: what's the focus of Chrome?
- To increase reliability of web applications, and make life of web dev easier
- Down the road to support HTML5
Audience question: how dead is SVG?
- Mozilla: SVG isn't dead. Mozilla implements it. Mocked ACID3 test. Wants to see harmony between Canvas and SVG
- MS: Yeah.
- Google: SVG isn't used that much.
AQ: Debugging tools?
- Mozilla: Firebug is only the beginning
- MS: Try IE8 beta 2 - it's good
- Google: chrome has two debugging tools: V8 Debugger and WebKit inspector. WebKit nightlies++
AQ: Browser as an OS? When/if primary way desktop apps are made will be for the browser?
- Google: browser != OS, but can foresee something like camera interfacing directly with picasa
- Mozilla: browsers have already invaded desktop app realms.
AQ: Cross browser development sucks. How to fix?
- MS: trying to tackle the problem by creating a large test suite and contributing to W3C. also providing compat mode.
AQ: Will chrome ever use the data that they have on you? Will this be exposed to developers?
- Already does. Used in the Omni Box
- Unlikely to be exposed to developers for privacy reasons
AQ: Browser addons. Will you support it?
- Google: will support them, but working on getting them stable first
- Mozilla: working on isolation techniques
- IE: addons have existed for a while. difficult to write, since they must be COM objects
AQ: Browser geolocation stuff? User scripts?
- MS: Privacy concerns for both questions. But otherwise, very excited about it.